Episode 3 of the Kitcast sees us review the new crest that will appear on Umbro kits from 2019/20. We also look back to the Centenary season home shirt, Justin Whittle talks kit preferences and in the news round-up we discuss the latest round of poppy shirt auctions, the use of third kits at Millwall, Scunthorpe’s kit poll and Roma’s rights issue.
Presented by Les and Adam, co-produced by Mikey and John.
Hull City Kits are delighted and privileged to have been asked by local Trawler memorial groups to help them auction some matchworn shirts. A first batch will go on auction website Ebay this Sunday evening from 8pm.
You may recall that when City faced Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in February, the Tigers wore shirts that (in addition to carrying Emirates FA Cup sleeve patches) featured sleeve patches memorialising the ‘Triple Trawler Tragedy’.
Early in 1968, three Hull trawlers were lost at sea, sinkings that claimed 58 lives and left just one survivor. These events shone a light on the unfavourable conditions and working practices that fishermen had to contend with, and tireless campaigning by the ‘Headscarf Revolutionaries’, widows and family members of the lost fishermen, led to strengthened safety legislation to better protect all who went to sea for a living.
The round sleeve patches that adorned City shirts at Chelsea feature the number 58, representing the number of lives lost in the three sinkings, above the outline of a trawler containing the text ‘1968-2018’, marking the 50th anniversary of the loss of the trawlers St. Romanus, Kingston Peridot and Ross Cleveland.
Hull City have kindly donated many of the shirts (some will have been swapped by players after the game) to the Trawler memorial groups, who wish to give Tigers fans the opportunity to own some of these unique shirts while raising funds to support the work of the groups.
Those groups are…
STAND (St. Andrews Dock Heritage Park Action Group) http://www.hullfishingheritage.org.uk
The Fishermen’s Mission http://www.fishermensmission.org.uk
The Hull Bullnose Heritage Group http://www.hullbullnoseheritagegroup.co.uk
Saint John the Baptist Church (The “Fishermen’s Church”)
Proceeds from the shirt auction will be divided between the four groups. Not all of the shirts handed to us will be listed on Ebay in one go, a decision was made by the groups to stagger their availability.
Now, let’s take a look at the shirts that will be up for auction this weekend!
Notes: Each shirt features a Trawler memorial patch on the left sleeve (as worn) and an Emirates FA Cup patch on the right sleeve. The name and numbers are player size, featuring the EFL logo and that of the league’s charity partner Prostate Cancer UK. Under the numbers on the back of the shirt is a green, heat bonded applique with the logo of associate club sponsor Burflex Scaffolding.
Kitroom staff typically prepare two shirts per player per game, as some players like to change shirts at half time. If a player doesn’t change at half time, or plays only one half, that leaves an unworn spare shirt that is nonetheless match issued.
Certificates of authenticity have not been created by the club for these shirts, which were simply passed, very generously we might add, to the memorial groups. That many of the shirts are unwashed and have grass and mud stains that can be matched to action photographs from the game is all the provenance that we need as collectors of matchworn Hull City shirts, but we at Hull City Kits don’t feel qualified to issue COAs so will not entertain requests for them.
For those who like their shirts clean*…
Harry Wilson – No visible signs of game wear, may be a match issued spare. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. Wilson, a rising star and godsend for City, has really made a name for himself while on loan from Liverpool and on international duty with Wales. He looks destined for big things.
Fraizer Campbell – No visible signs of game wear, may be a match issued spare. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. Campbell, in his second spell for City, joined the action in the 72nd minute.
David Marshall – Worn and unwashed, but with little obvious signs of game use. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. Marshall, a back-up to Allan McGregor for much of the season, was given the nod for the cup tie and played all game. We know this is the jersey he wore because we can use action pictures to photo match a unique property. A number one had been applied to the shirt, but then removed and a number 12 added. Residue from the heat bonded number’s removal remains and can be clearly seen in game action.
Jackson Irvine – long hair never looked so good! Sorry, couldn’t resist. No visible signs of game wear, may be a match issued spare. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. Australian international and man-bun enthusiast Irvine started the game, and was replaced on 88 minutes by Daniel Batty.
Jon Toral – No visible signs of game wear, may be a match issued spare. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. Toral, a product of the Barcelona academy, was a substitute who joined the game 55 minutes in, replacing Harry Wilson.
*Disclaimer: Though some of the shirts are clean, that’s not to say they might not pong a bit. All of the shirts were placed in a large bag together, so even the unworn shirts may share a little of the odour of the unwashed shirts.
For those who like their shirts mucky…
Michael Dawson – Worn and unwashed, with grass stains under the numbers. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. The Tigers captain played the full 90 minutes.
Kevin Stewart – Worn and unwashed, with mud/grass stains. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. Stewart played the full game
Allan McGregor – Bench worn and unwashed, with mud stains. Signed by the player on the back of the shirt. This shirt is full of surprises, we didn’t expect the shirt of an unused substitute to have any dirt on it, but it seems the back-up keeper for this game wore it during an energetic warm-up and it gathered some Stamford Bridge mud. Furthermore, the sleeves have been hand cut by scissors. We asked kitman John Eyre about this and he replied “We’ve run out of green goalkeeper shirts in large, so we printed up an XL but cut the sleeves so it fit better.” Unexpected mud and signs of player personalisation? How does that not float your boat?
If you would like to donate to the sterling work of the Trawler memorial groups, PayPal is a good way, paypal.me/trawlermemorial
Our friends at Football Bobbles, purveyors of fine headwear based on (amongst other things) football kits of historic note, have made the logical step of basing a bobble hat on a shirt that is simultaneously the greatest and the worst ever conceived.
Named in honour of (who else?) Dean Windass, ‘The Deano’ riffs on City’s 1992/93 home shirt and is made in England from 100% polyester.
There are just 50 available, and they go on sale at 7pm tonight, the fastest fingers will be rewarded. Get yours at Football Bobbles.Available soon: The ‘Deano’ bobble, by Football Bobbles.
It has been a while since we last trawled through Ebay’s completed listings to celebrate or mourn the varied Hull City shirts that have been snapped up, but the mood has taken us so we’ll review January’s offerings.
The biggest news has been the Royal British Legion’s listing of the poppy emblazoned player shirts worn at home to Southampton and away at Burnley. Compared to previous years poppy shirt auctions, these two lots went for peanuts.
The player whose shirts went for the most might surprise you, it was Stephen Quinn, who came on as a sub in both of the games which ended in 1-0 defeats. £138 and £131.29 (not including postage) were the final prices of Quinniesta’s shirt pair.
That really isn’t a lot of money for matchworn shirts from known games with certificates of authenticity, and many went for much less. Consider these bargains: Jake Livermore’s shirt from the Burnley game, £69. Sone Aluko’s shirts went for £72 and £70.
One of Paul McShane’s shirts went for £78.01 while his other went for £103.11, one of only 6 shirts that went for over £100 (the others being Robertson £113.11, Huddlestone £109, Stephen Harper’s aqua keeper shirt used at Turf Moor £101.51 and the Quinn shirts).
Why have they gone for so little this year, given that Dele Adebola’s 2011/12 poppy shirt fetched £155, more than any of the current years shirts? The possible reasons are numerous: This year the RBL did the auction themselves rather than having the club do it, and whereas the club would use the OWS and social media accounts to advertise the auctions, this one was essentially unheralded this time round. Also, there were two shirts for each player’s shirts this year, rather than one shirt worn in two games, which doubles the number of shirts available and consequently dilutes bidding war potential.
Then there is the time the auction finished: after 1am on a Tuesday morning, when most folk are in bed ahead of a work day, an utterly baffling decision. The combination of these factors has led to less money than you’d expect to be raised for the poppy appeal, but you won’t get many complaints from collectors.
Ahead of the auction, the RBL did said they’d limit the amount of shirts one person could buy. Last year every single City poppy shirt was bought by an American sports memorabilia outfit called Nate D. Sanders, who sought to resell them at a hefty profit though they’ve had little joy, no surprise when they list Tom Huddlestone’s shirt for $2000/£1,323, good luck with that! Regardless of RBL’s limit clause, 16 of the 31 available shirts went to one of three buyers, one Ebayer alone bought 7 of them. Ordinarily we don’t normally go for poppy shirts, but these were going for so little, we treated ourselves to the one worn by Abel Hernandez against Southampton.
Few things are more frustrating for kit collectors than seeing an item appear on completed listings that never showed up on obsessive daily searches or on email alerts set to notify you of such items.
Such an item sold in January: a Fraizer Campbell worn 2007/08 home shirt (with Tiger Leisure COA), used in the home game against Barnsley in which the now unfairly loathed loanee scored twice.
The shirt was listed as Buy-It-Now, which is a possible explanation as to how it was missed in our frenzied daily searching, and was sold for £120. That amount is what we consider a reasonable base price for modern matchworn shirts, but given Campbell’s importance in that promotion winning side, it might have fetched a bit more had it been a bidding auction, we’d certainly would have had a crack at it.
Overall, matchworn City shirts are going for a lot less now than they did a year ago, there was a time when scores of people would battle each other for shirts used in the basement division, bidding hundreds of pounds. That time seems to have gone, possibly a result of the war of attrition the owners are waging on the traditional club name, and in turn fans who value it, causing a general malaise, because old shirts are not going for much right now.
Take this Michael Bridges 2006/07 home shirt that went for just £29.29, a ridiculous price for a very nice shirt. We ruled ourselves out early as we already have a 2006/07 home matchworn and we’re concentrating on getting shirts from seasons that we don’t have, but there was a twinge of regret when we saw that final price.
At the time we were focussing on a 2009/10 Geovanni home shirt that after much photo-matching research, we found to be authentic and got for just £50! The placing of names and numbers applied on shirts with pinstripes makes it relatively easy to see if the shirt has been worn when comparing it to match photos, and we found that Geo wore it at home to Manchester United. The seller had sourced the shirt from a Wigan player who had swapped his shirt for Geo’s unused spare shirt in the 3rd round FA Cup tie at the JJB Stadium.
Another 2009/10 home shirt went for a similar amount, a supposed Jimmy Bullard matchworn that we didn’t bother researching to see if it was authentic or not, as we wouldn’t wipe our arses using a shirt of his. A better buy was this Joe Dudgeon ‘Tash Converters’ shirt used at Bristol City in 2012/13, it went for £117.
Someone was suckered into believing they’d got a 2009/10 poppy shirt in January, and paid £58.57 for a bog standard replica badged up by a coin eyed miscreant.
The real poppy shirts didn’t have embroidered game text, it was heat applied, and the three lines of text was confined within two pinstripes, it certainly wasn’t wider than the Umbro logo above it.
£58.57 for a fake when a real matchworn poppy shirt from this year went for £69, and a different matchworn went for £29.29, that’s crazy. Do your research buyers, granted there are very few cases of Hull City shirt fakery, but this shirt shows it does happen. Caveat emptor.
Like the Fraizer Campbell shirt we missed a Buy-It-Now 1999/00 Gareth Williams shirt, that has all the attributes of a real matchworn: the full size letters and numbers, the retroreflective sleeve patches and it’s an XL, as all players were issued with that season, whether they were Gary Brabin hefty or Ian Goodison stick thin. We do have a matchworn 1999/00 home shirt already, but they are rare enough to justify having two, and this one apparently going for a penny short of £50 makes us weep.
I think I know why we stopped doing these auction reviews, as seeing shirts you could have had but somehow missed them is most distressing. Still, there’s no use crying over sold polyester, and there is always February!
Eagle eyed fans watching the 0-0 draw with Leicester on Boxing Day will have noticed that a new appliqué had appeared on the playing kit. Two days later the club announced a sponsorship deal with local scaffolding firm Burflex, who would become back of shorts sponsor for the remainder of this season.
The Clay Street firm have struck a deal that covers not just the rest of the 2012/13, but also the whole of next season too, although if City were to be promoted this term the Burflex appliqués would not be used in 2013/14, as kit sponsorship is restricted to chest advertising only in the Premier League.
Early in January the 3rd shirts worn at Bristol City were sent out to the winning bidders of an online auction that ended on Christmas Day. The Argentina blue shirts featured ‘tash converters’ appliqués, as main sponsor Cash Converters used the televised game in late October to show their support of the Movember charity.
Scorer Sone Aluko’s shirt fetched a whopping £510, that along with cash raised from the sale of the rest of the shirts will go towards male cancer treatment research. We were rather chuffed to snag Liam Rosenior’s matchworn shirt, but what later grabbed our attention was the crest patches used on the goalkeeper shirts.
Tiger National Andy Bradley won Eldin Jakupović’s bench worn keeper jersey and sent us a photo of his purchase, showing that the crest used was the 3D effect, layered felt type which featured on City’s 2010/11 kits, whereas the outfield shirts all used the iron on (but meant to look stitched on) crests used on kits for both this season and for 2011/12. Dave Holmes, snagger of the matchworn ‘keeper shirt from that game, confirmed that Ben Amos’ jersey used the 2010/11 crest too. Curious.
Finally, a request for knowledge. The above photos were both for sale on Ebay recently, and show City in the Admiral away shirt introduced in 1982/83 and used throughout the six year period Admiral made City’s kits. The pinstriped away shirt is being worn with plain white socks and what black socks, do you know what game these images are from?